Don't drop students to drop fees

 

Andrea Chuey, a master’s student at the Sprott School of Business, and fifth-year mechanical engineering student, James Hine, challenge the Drop Fees movement. (Photo Provided)

 

Nobody enjoys paying tuition fees.

No kidding.

But the Drop Fees campaign, led each year by the Ontario wing of the Canadian Federation of Students, insists that there is an alternative.

With the list of 29 items that campaigners are asking the Ontario government to satisfy, they’ve set out to make university life less financially devastating to students. But looking through the campaign’s list of demands, it’s hard not to ask: “Will you please show your work?”

The campaign fails to explain where money would come from in the event that tuition fees are lowered.  The only answer we’ve heard is: “The government should pay it.” 

Does this mean that taxes would have to increase? Would wages be cut for staff and faculty? 

This point should be the crux of the campaign and the fact that it isn’t certainly raises questions as to what the repercussions of this program’s success may be.

If the burden falls onto taxpayers, then hard-working students’ mommies and daddies could end up paying even more for their children’s education.

And would families living in poverty, the very people the campaign supposedly intends to help, have to pay higher taxes to pay for lower tuition fees, too?

Another hole in the Drop Fees initiative is created by the call to increase the number of faculty per student. This serious issue, which many students relate to with frustration,   comes into conflict with the first campaign objective.

Again, where would the funding come from to support the added staff?

 In order to recruit faculty in the first place, universities have to make attractive financial or research resource offers.

The unfriendly truth is that faculty costs money and this part of the initiative would only add to the financial strain.

Perhaps the most frustrating repercussion of this entire campaign is that not all students would benefit from it, and some could actually be harmed by it.

Many professional and graduate programs have historically had more flexibility to charge higher tuition fees. With this system in place, policies proposed by Drop Fees might not benefit professional programs like nursing, engineering and medicine, for example. 

In addition, the Drop Fees initiative plans to eliminate the Ontario textbook and technology grant available to all students who qualify for loans under the Ontario Student Assistance Program (OSAP). The campaign recommends putting this money, instead, towards an overall drop in tuition fees.

Considering this grant is only $150 per student to begin with, when spread out over all post-secondary students, this is not going to go far.

Under this plan, students in technical and professional programs not only stand to miss out on the lowered fees that form the basis of the campaign, they will also lose this grant. What technical student in his or her right mind would ever want to support this? 

Most disturbingly, the Drop Fees campaign is not upfront about these facts.

The campaign does propose to support these programs by making OSAP available to professional, graduate and part time students.

That would be a noble goal, if OSAP hadn’t already done so long ago.

OSAP is already available to these groups, who seem marginalized by the rest of the campaign.

Professional and technical students, along with Ontario’s taxpayers, are the ones who stand to lose based on the list of Drop Fees recommendations.

This whole endeavour could be far more constructive if the campaign presented the government with a solid plan of action that spoke, not just for a few student groups, but for everyone.
 

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  This argument seems flimsy

  This argument seems flimsy and not well thought through. I think the authors have buried their political stance beneath a rhetoric that pretends to have an interest in student issues; when they are actually concerned about furthering a political outlook.
Take for example the following statement made by the authors:
"Perhaps the most frustrating repercussion of this entire campaign is that not all students would benefit from it, and some could actually be harmed by it.
Many professional and graduate programs have historically had more flexibility to charge higher tuition fees. With this system in place, policies proposed by Drop Fees might not benefit professional programs like nursing, engineering and medicine, for example. "
    I'm confused. Is stifling the ability of various programs to charge higher fees a problem? Do they want people to pay more for tuition as individuals? I think that, strangely the answer is yes. The argument that Drop Fees 'might not' benefit programs, followed by no explanation or substantiation doesn't really convince anyone of the threat that Drop Fees allegedly poses. But what can one expect, when there are leaps in logic or assumptions of this variety, ideology is not far behind.
    To further flesh this out just take a look at their statement:
"Another hole in the Drop Fees initiative is created by the call to increase the number of faculty per student. This serious issue, which many students relate to with frustration,   comes into conflict with the first campaign objective."
    All this does is points out that we, as a society, undervalue education and the role of the educated therein. I'm not frustrated with the demand to drop fees because of this contradiction; I'm frustrated that the government and societal choice to underfund my education is making me make this choice to begin with. Asking for more professors, as well as to pay less money (through tuition) is not an inherent contradiction.
It is only a contradiction if you apply conservative logic that says schools must be run like a business--which they most certainly are not. Schools, like transit and sewers and clean water, to name a few public services, are not businesses and are not generators of revenue and are not fiscal markets. We realized over a hundred years ago that schools function best and make society most fair when they are run publicly. Public schools--including universities--assure access to education, something which is stifled by charging more money (in any way) and having too few professors. I guess you'd have to disagree with the idea that the only market at schools is the market of ideas to see the demand for the best and most accessible education possible as a bad thing.
 Finally, I'm both confused and a little bewildered by the logic at play in their argument for not re-purposing the Ontario textbook grant into a general revenue source that will drop overall tuition fees. Again, pretending to have the interests of needy students in mind, these authors would rather pit needy students against the larger student body--those working jobs or not in need of OSAP--rather than see tuition decrease overall (something which would make it more accessible to begin with). That text-book fund is a waste and was likely spent on little more than beer by most of us anyway. Why not pool it and start the argument for more government funding overall? Pooling that money and arguing for an overall increase in education funding IS looking out for the interests of all students--something they claim is not being done in their concluding statement.
This whole piece seems to be pro-corporatist conservatism posing as progressive pragmatism--neither in my world, nor in any world for that matter. Education costs, I think the authors need to realize that and simply come to terms with it. Taxes happen, deal with them. We should be talking about what we value in education rather than trying to valuate it.
 

DROP FEES sucks for the poor

I am not politically affiliated in any way, but I do not support the drop fees campaign. You can choose to campaign for lower tuition fees, whatever, but do not claim that you are doing it for the benefit of the poorest students. As a low income student, I would not benefit from lowering of tuition fees because I am already eligible for grants that cap my annual loan at 7000.00$. Any decrease in tuition fees would be absorbed by this program as a reduction in my total grant.

I am confused at your argument about how lowering tuition fees makes education more accessible to students. Under the current system, it is not the barrier for low-income students like me. Any pretense of helping the poor is violated by advocating to take away a grant (the textbook grant) from the poorest students and using it to further subsidize the education of the wealthiest students (who happen to also be the wealthiest of society as a whole). This is literally taking money allocated to the poor to give to the rich. To say that this money is 'spent on beer' shows how little you understand the reality of the poorest students, who cannot afford such luxuries but often go without textbooks, not to mention skipping meals to make ends meet.

We all have to make sacrifices in order to obtain our education. Asking for an increase in public subsidies to University education is asking minimum wage, hand-to mouth workers to pay for the education of the children of doctors.

The reason that more rich people go to University is, maybe surprisingly, NOT because of the prohibitive cost of University, but because of many other social factors that prevent poorer children from being successful in grade school- these problems are already well established long before a person is old enough to begin attending university. We would be doubly penalizing the less-educated if we force them to pay for the education of the rich.

I wish these student activist types would feel less entitled to government money- which is in the end- money that comes from all citizens and should be used for the benefit of all citizens, not just the educational elite. I'm sorry if paying your tuition fees means you can't afford a car right away, or will leave you in debt. I've seen your shoes and your clothes and they cost as much as your tuition, so stop using my student fees to finance your Drop Fees campaign, because I don't agree with it!! (this is directed in the general direction of everyone I've spoken to on CUSA council)

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